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steve rattner. >> i agree completely. to get a big deal we all have to hold our nose a little bit and accept things we don't want. the only thing i would slightly push back on what governor barbour said, i think the president has been more forthcoming than you suggested. he's put entitlements on the table and put a trillion-eight on the table in cuts. i think he's serious to do serious business on entitlement and wants the republicans to do serious business on rates. a number of republicans have been using the sound bite on the deficit in the first two months of the year going up 16%. that may be true. there are two months in which there have been cycles and the deficit has been flat -- but we have a spending problem, i agree, we have a spending problem. >> you agree all we're talking about is raising taxes on the top 2%, even if we do that 39.6%, that doesn't make a dent in the long term debt. >> you need $4 trillion of deficit. $4 trillion of deficit reduction is what you need. raising those two rates gets you $450 bill
steve rattner. >> i agree completely. to get a big deal we all have to hold our nose a little bit and accept things we don't want. the only thing i would slightly push back on what governor barbour said, i think the president has been more forthcoming than you suggested. he's put entitlements on the table and put a trillion-eight on the table in cuts. i think he's serious to do serious business on entitlement and wants the republicans to do serious business on rates. a number of...
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. >> i was on stage afterwards talking to steve van zandt and max weinberg, and then all of a sudden, they were looking behind me, they moved away and stopped talking. so, i turned around. there he was. >> and there he was. >> there he was. >> and he gave you -- >> and he came up and put his hand out, so i shook his hand, i tried to be cool. >> sure. >> i wasn't. and then he said, "come on, give me a hug," and i said, all right, and i hugged him, and -- >> then did he go, come on, stop, let me go! >> no. you know, that's always hard to judge, right? stop the man hug? you know, it's hard, but -- >> did you give -- you've got to give also this, the pat, or did you just go slow dance? >> no, i went slow dance. >> you've got to be kidding me. >> i did, i went slow dance, i did. >> no pat? >> no pat, i went slow dance. but then he said the most amazing thing to me. he said, "it's official, we're friends." >> oh, wow! that's nice. that's nice. >> i appreciate that. i appreciate christie admits his bromance. that's a good thing. >> okay. >> now, it wouldn't be cooler without lindsay lohan, a
. >> i was on stage afterwards talking to steve van zandt and max weinberg, and then all of a sudden, they were looking behind me, they moved away and stopped talking. so, i turned around. there he was. >> and there he was. >> there he was. >> and he gave you -- >> and he came up and put his hand out, so i shook his hand, i tried to be cool. >> sure. >> i wasn't. and then he said, "come on, give me a hug," and i said, all right, and i hugged...
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with us on set, economic analyst steve rattner. also political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. andrea mitchell. and in new york, msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. and the co-anchor of "street signs," brian sullivan. we've got a lot to talk about, mike barnicle, but i saw a headline on the front page of "usa today," a tease that is very intriguing, and that is one of the greatest players in major league baseball trying to get his worth right now. and if i were a major league team, i would pass on josh hamilton in a new york second because the guy phoned it in when his team needed him the most. there's an attitude problem. and yet he could be such a huge payoff. are the red sox looking at josh hamilton? >> i think any team that's looking at hamilton is looking at no longer than three years with him because of the things you just mentioned. >> he, of course, had an addiction problem, a terrible addiction problem. he got passed -- it was an inspiring story, but he seemed to fall off the cliff. n
with us on set, economic analyst steve rattner. also political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. andrea mitchell. and in new york, msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. and the co-anchor of "street signs," brian sullivan. we've got a lot to talk about, mike barnicle, but i saw a headline on the front page of "usa today," a tease that is very intriguing, and that is one of the greatest players in major league baseball trying to get his worth...
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steve said it best from the outset. if the president does not get off to the right start here, it makes it incredibly difficult, if not at a minimum, complicated, to get the rest of his agenda through, not to mention all the foreign policy challenges that will be the backdrop. steve indicated this is the most important thing that will be done. he's likely right unless there's something that we don't want to at all think about or foresee for the next few years, so you have to get this right or get it done to get to the next step. >> but on the specifics of it, steve, why should we be optimistic? who's going to move from their position, and why would they? >> the reasons to be optimistic, you have two prose prose propos table that are robust. the president's made important concessions on revenues. the democrats have made concessions on addressing entitlements, not insufficient for the other one, and what we're fighting over now is this issue of tax rates. and the republicans do have to give on tax rates. it's going to be
steve said it best from the outset. if the president does not get off to the right start here, it makes it incredibly difficult, if not at a minimum, complicated, to get the rest of his agenda through, not to mention all the foreign policy challenges that will be the backdrop. steve indicated this is the most important thing that will be done. he's likely right unless there's something that we don't want to at all think about or foresee for the next few years, so you have to get this right or...
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basically have everything you've accomplished at alabama wiped off the map because the end will be -- steve spurrier still hasn't recovered from his stint in washington. the guy was a football god. he went to washington and immediately the stories started, you know, that this guy was bush league. he was a college coach. if saban goes up and fails a second time -- and god bless him, he's done enough for alabama, he deserves that right, or do you want to be remembered the greatest college football coach of all time? he sticks around another ten years, wins more champion sshi people consider this guy the john wooden of college football. >> when you look at what they've done p college coaches, that could be the lure, but he was miserable when he was at miami. in his second year with the dolphins, he was looking for opportunities back at the college game. i think it would take a lot to get him back to the nfl. when you look at all the teams that will need coaches -- >> but why go? >> well, money. a lot of money. a whole lot of money. >> in the words of dire straits, he's got a daytime job. he's
basically have everything you've accomplished at alabama wiped off the map because the end will be -- steve spurrier still hasn't recovered from his stint in washington. the guy was a football god. he went to washington and immediately the stories started, you know, that this guy was bush league. he was a college coach. if saban goes up and fails a second time -- and god bless him, he's done enough for alabama, he deserves that right, or do you want to be remembered the greatest college...
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steve rattner has charts. looking at how much the budget cuts being considered now on capitol hill will impact retirees in the future. so steve, explain. where do you want to begin? >> well, first, as we've been discussing for the last hour and a half, nobody knows exactly what's going to happen in washington yet. so these are all kind of hypotheticals. >> but we talked about raising the eligibility age for medicare. >> there are a couple ideas floating around what's going to give you a sense of what's going to happen. for political reasons, everybody's talking about phasing these things in slowly. it's unlikely we're going to wake up -- >> no. it's not going to be today. >> let's start with raising the medicare eligibility age. this is something that's been much discussed. it is said president obama would probably go from 65 to 67 and be phased in over a period of years. so what happens is people 65 to 67 are going to either going to have to work longer or get their own private insurance. and we can now look
steve rattner has charts. looking at how much the budget cuts being considered now on capitol hill will impact retirees in the future. so steve, explain. where do you want to begin? >> well, first, as we've been discussing for the last hour and a half, nobody knows exactly what's going to happen in washington yet. so these are all kind of hypotheticals. >> but we talked about raising the eligibility age for medicare. >> there are a couple ideas floating around what's going to...
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. >> steve, which states do you think could be targeted next? >> well, i think the republican party has a strategy here to try and weaken institutions that help working families and help the mill class. it's really sad. you know, the republican party isn't doing very well right now. what are they doing, going after labor unions. people forget, all the things we take for granted, whether 2 will be sick leave, available indication days, five-day work week, 40-hour week, it's all because of fights the labor unions did to help the middle class and help working families be competitive in this marketplace. >> do you see any states that might be at risk here? >> do i think what? >> do you see any states that are at risk next? >> oh, yeah, i think the republican party is going to spend a lot of time trying to do this because it's unfortunate because what the republican party ought to be doing is how to change the message to talk to middle class families. the nbc/"wall street journal" poll this morning said republic people view republicans as being too r
. >> steve, which states do you think could be targeted next? >> well, i think the republican party has a strategy here to try and weaken institutions that help working families and help the mill class. it's really sad. you know, the republican party isn't doing very well right now. what are they doing, going after labor unions. people forget, all the things we take for granted, whether 2 will be sick leave, available indication days, five-day work week, 40-hour week, it's all...
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steve from e-shave. awesome. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> the 'stache is slashed. >>> when we come become, a preview of "meet the press" with david gregory and "washington post" columnist eugene robinson. keep it right here on "morning joe." we're at walmart talking about the low price guarantee with brandy who is stocking up for the holidays. look at that price. that's great! if you find a lower advertised price, walmart will match it at the register. really? yeah. there you have it. oh my goodness! that's the walmart low price guarantee. see for yourself. bring in your last receipt and see how much you can save. be ready. with the season's tastiest brands. like sea pak shrimp spring rolls. delicious handmade rolls, authentic asian taste. walmart has everything you need to be ready for holiday hosting. with our low price guarantee backed by ad match. walmart. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared s
steve from e-shave. awesome. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> the 'stache is slashed. >>> when we come become, a preview of "meet the press" with david gregory and "washington post" columnist eugene robinson. keep it right here on "morning joe." we're at walmart talking about the low price guarantee with brandy who is stocking up for the holidays. look at that price. that's great! if you find a lower advertised price, walmart will...
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i'm steve in for chris hayes who will appear later in the program interviewing dan savage. it's about dan's marriage in washington state. they are one of the couples getting married there. after voters extended marriage rights to same-sex couples by popular vote last month. we have david johnston, the author of "fine print." he's a pulitzer prize winning tax writer at new york times and now at the college of law. we have the president and ceo of the center of american progress who served in the obama and clinton administrations, policy director of hillary clinton's campaign. laura flanders, founder of grittv.com. the editor of salon.com and the woman who hired me two years ago. thanks, as always for that. >> of course. >> anyway, on friday afternoon, house speaker john boehner attempted to paint a picture of white house negotiations and how to avoid going over the fiscal curve. i have been saying fiscal slope. now on the show, i'll go with curve. >> this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. four days ago, we offered a serious proposal based on test
i'm steve in for chris hayes who will appear later in the program interviewing dan savage. it's about dan's marriage in washington state. they are one of the couples getting married there. after voters extended marriage rights to same-sex couples by popular vote last month. we have david johnston, the author of "fine print." he's a pulitzer prize winning tax writer at new york times and now at the college of law. we have the president and ceo of the center of american progress who...
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krystal ball and steve kornacki, thank you. >> thanks, lawrence. >>> if we do go off the cliff, how long does it take to hit the bottom? >>> and who was the most influential politician from the last 30 years? from 1980 until now? tweet me your answers and i will announce it in the rewrite. and then later, k.i.n.d., kids in need of desks. and i'm going to sit here and write a big check for it at this desk. that's coming up. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the dif
krystal ball and steve kornacki, thank you. >> thanks, lawrence. >>> if we do go off the cliff, how long does it take to hit the bottom? >>> and who was the most influential politician from the last 30 years? from 1980 until now? tweet me your answers and i will announce it in the rewrite. and then later, k.i.n.d., kids in need of desks. and i'm going to sit here and write a big check for it at this desk. that's coming up. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way...
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krystal ball and steve kornacki, thank you. >> thanks, lawrence. >>> if we do go off the cliff, how long does it take to hit the bottom? >>> and who was the most influential politician from the last 30 years? from 1980 until now? tweet me your answers and i will announce it in the rewrite. and then later, k.i.n.d., kids in need of desks. and i'm going to sit here and write a beg check for it at this desk. that's coming up. [ scratching ] you're not using too much are you, hon? ♪ nope. [ female announcer ] charmin ultra soft is so soft you'll have to remind your family they can use less. charmin ultra soft is made with extra cushions that are soft and more absorbent. plus you can use four times less versus the leading value brand. don't worry, there's plenty left for you dad. we all go. why not enjoy the go with charmin ultra soft? why not enjoy the go [ traffic passing ] ] ♪ [ music box: lullaby ] [ man on tv, indistinct ] ♪ [ lullaby continues ] [ baby coos ] [ man announcing ] millions are still exposed to the dangers... of secondhand smoke... and some of them can't do anything a
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steve, i want to you go to chris christie first. that question barbara walters asked him seems to me to be a hurdle he would have to get over in any national campaign. i think barbara is asking what is in the very first set of questions that voters would have on their minds. >> there is no question that its an issue. there is no question it is a legitimate issue. the help of presidential candidates is always a part of a presidential race. it is as physically grueling an experience as you can possibly have. he has done a tremendous job during this crisis in new jersey. it is not analogous to running for president nationally over the course of four years. i think if he is going to be a serious presidential candidate, this is an issue that he is going to have to deal with. i say that as someone who admires him very, very much and hopes very badly that he will run for president as a republican. i think who could help remake the party. >> steve, i do think he handled that reasonably well in response to barbara's question. >> there is no
steve, i want to you go to chris christie first. that question barbara walters asked him seems to me to be a hurdle he would have to get over in any national campaign. i think barbara is asking what is in the very first set of questions that voters would have on their minds. >> there is no question that its an issue. there is no question it is a legitimate issue. the help of presidential candidates is always a part of a presidential race. it is as physically grueling an experience as you...
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>> steve, i like the humor around the group, and i think it's a slightly schizophrenic time. i think one can be deeply worried about the compression of growth, the collapse of inflation, and the possible revival of 1930s style policies around the world. that's deeply worrying. on the other hand, i think there is some space to be slightly optimistic that we're opening up opportunities for what i call a pivot to inhe flags both here in the united states and around the world. >> this is just around the corner, and it's going to destroy the economy and inflation has not ticked up. it's been low for the past few years. you say maybe a little inflation wouldn't be bad for the economy right here. kind of a counterintuitive argument to make. can you lay that case out a little bit? >> yeah. the big concern when you have a heavily indekted economy here in the united states and around the developed world the last thing you want is deflation, because that means the debt burdens get heavier and it becomes harder to pay them off. what you want essentially is some inflation. not high inflat
>> steve, i like the humor around the group, and i think it's a slightly schizophrenic time. i think one can be deeply worried about the compression of growth, the collapse of inflation, and the possible revival of 1930s style policies around the world. that's deeply worrying. on the other hand, i think there is some space to be slightly optimistic that we're opening up opportunities for what i call a pivot to inhe flags both here in the united states and around the world. >> this...
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>> well, i would actually say to steve the fourth, and that's the secretary of state position is actually softened hillary clinton. she's been made accessible and precisely because of the work she's done with women and children but also she's been able to demonstrate her tenacity but also her leadership on a global level where it's no longer is she part of the bill and hillary team now, but every time someone mentions clinton you first think of hillary and then think of bill. that demonstrates not only has she been able to become more accessible, but more importantly she's been fierce all on her own as a leader. >> jonathan, let me play with james carville said about a possible hillary clinton candidacy. take a listen. >> every democrat i know says, god, i hope she runs, we don't need a primary. the democrats want her to run. i don't mean a lot of democrats, i mean a whole lot of democrats, like 90% across the country. >> okay, john. so when you look at the roster of likely gop candidates from bobby jindal, rick santorum possibly, chris christie, marco rubio, would any of them be able to
>> well, i would actually say to steve the fourth, and that's the secretary of state position is actually softened hillary clinton. she's been made accessible and precisely because of the work she's done with women and children but also she's been able to demonstrate her tenacity but also her leadership on a global level where it's no longer is she part of the bill and hillary team now, but every time someone mentions clinton you first think of hillary and then think of bill. that...
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let's start with steve rattner? >> i learned richard haass thinks north korea is the thing we should be lying about thinking about. >> wants us talking about it three hours a day. >> three hours a day. man's on a mission. what did you learn? >> i learned there's yet another reason not to drink soda. >> what is that? >> like i need one. it has some strange flame retardant in it. >> i thought that was gatorade. >> orange soda, snaple drinks. >> what time is it? >> it's "morning joe." chuck todd is straight ahead. >> the people have spoken and they want a deal. brand new poll numbers show us the country is craving a compromise. and guess whose personal ratings are topping the charts? not the president. 2016 sure looks good for the clintons, even though hillary clinton assures us she's not thi running, right now. good morning from washington. it's thursday, december 13, 2012. this is "the daily rundown," i'm chuck todd. the only reason we can't saturday fiscal cliff negotiations have fallen apart is that the two sides a
let's start with steve rattner? >> i learned richard haass thinks north korea is the thing we should be lying about thinking about. >> wants us talking about it three hours a day. >> three hours a day. man's on a mission. what did you learn? >> i learned there's yet another reason not to drink soda. >> what is that? >> like i need one. it has some strange flame retardant in it. >> i thought that was gatorade. >> orange soda, snaple drinks....
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. >> congressman steve from new york and chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee. good afternoon, sir. >> hi, martin. >> congressman, notwithstanding the fact that speaker boehner's office is considered mathematically dyslexic by many economists, has it surprised you some republicans have actually condemned boehner's office and would much prefer to keep taxes as they are and take an axe to social programs, medicare, in order to reduce the deficit? >> what's to surprising about that? for so many republicans, they said in the 1990s they wanted medicare to wither on the vine. you know, they now think they have the opportunity to do it in 2012. speaker boehner's proposal is based on the mathematical equation, two plus two equals whatever you want it to be. that's not how you grow the middle class. you do it in a balanced way. let's reduce the deficit we've already supported, $2 trillion in spending cuts, but let's do it in a way by asking the richest 2% to do their fair and grow the economy by making smart investments and things like job creating infrastructure. that'
. >> congressman steve from new york and chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee. good afternoon, sir. >> hi, martin. >> congressman, notwithstanding the fact that speaker boehner's office is considered mathematically dyslexic by many economists, has it surprised you some republicans have actually condemned boehner's office and would much prefer to keep taxes as they are and take an axe to social programs, medicare, in order to reduce the deficit? >>...
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a lot is people are unsure about the economy these days and the post-steve jobs era. >> even around christmastime when the products are popular as gifts. >> you think retail sales would translate well because there's so many other issues there besides how much they sell in the store. >> it's interesting. we'll see what happens with this case and if it has an impact of consumers that own these products. thank you very much. >>> marijuana is now legal under washington state law. that tops our look at stories around the "news nation." take a look. that's how they celebrated in washington state. the news came down after midnight as you know at the seattle center. it allows people to possess up to an ounce of pot, but they cannot smoke it in public. that looks like public to me. the police department will issue verbal warnings to violators. that explains the public video. lawyers for software company founder john mcafee sought guatemala denied his asylum. they detained him for entering the country illegally. he's wanted for questioning in connection with the murder of his neighbor. he denies any invol
a lot is people are unsure about the economy these days and the post-steve jobs era. >> even around christmastime when the products are popular as gifts. >> you think retail sales would translate well because there's so many other issues there besides how much they sell in the store. >> it's interesting. we'll see what happens with this case and if it has an impact of consumers that own these products. thank you very much. >>> marijuana is now legal under washington...